Interested But Not Enrolled: Understanding and Serving Aspiring Adult Learners - Shared screen with gallery view
Hello! Maribel Carvalho from NJ Department of Labor
Thank you all for joining us today for Strada Education Network’s Public Viewpoint Webinar: Interested But Not Enrolled: Understanding and Serving Aspiring Adult Learners.We are thrilled to have such a terrific line up of guest speakers today.Moderating the conversation is:Nichole Torpey-Saboe, Director of Research, Strada Consumer InsightsPanelists:Mary Hawkins, President, Bellevue UniversityBecky Klein-Collins, Associate Vice President for Advancement and Impact, CAELYves Salomon-Fernandez, President, Greenfield Community CollegeTonjua Williams, President, St. Petersburg CollegeA few housekeeping items to note:-A recording of this webinar will be sent out tomorrow to all registrants, along with a survey to gather your feedback around the webinar and our public viewpoint information-Please place all questions in the Q&A box-Feel free to engage in the chat as we will have some of our team members able to answer questions and chat back with you
Vincent L. BrileyAssistant Dean of Learning & EngagementFulbright Scholar LiaisonCuyahoga Community College - Metropolitan CampusCleveland, OH 44115(216) 987-4147
Welcome, all! You can follow along with our slides here: https://www.stradaeducation.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Public-Viewpoint-Charts-September-16-2020.pdf
And learn more about the Public Viewpoint work here: https://www.stradaeducation.org/publicviewpoint/
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Hi Nori - this survey looked at adults who had completed a HS degree or equivalent so that was not one of the barriers we captured this time around.
Good Afternoon All - I’d like to dig into the data point around less than 30% of the population actually knowing what skills they need to acquire. How are the various institutions represented on the panel addressing this both from a program/learning experience design perspective and maybe more importantly help individuals figure this out! Rachel Sumner, Education & Training Consultant
Hi Nora - Due to sample size, we weren't able to further break down the data this time, but we are continuing to collect data and hope to be able to provide additional insights soon
Alison Lands - Skills Transformation Leader at Coursera: One of the ways that we work with out learners (including workforce boards and workforce development audiences and postsecondary learners) to help them orient themselves within the skills landscape is to deliver programming, like a webinar about the skills you need to be successful / advance their career: https://youtu.be/ljms8GeAOUY
The feedback from sessions like this indicated to us that there is a significant unmet demand for people to get some coaching on how to identify the skills they need to pursue, and also how to locate the right level and content of training to get those skills. I also think that tools like Worthi by Citi (https://www.citivelocity.com/worthi/eppublic/helloworthi/home/) and SkillMatch by EMSI (https://www.economicmodeling.com/skills-match/) can be very helpful - and are free and oriented to a layperson to use
Hi James - We recently published data around online learning preferences vs in-person or hybrid . You may find this research useful: https://www.stradaeducation.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Public-Viewpoint-Charts-August-26-2020.pdf
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Thanks Alison - already familiar with EMSI but Worthi is new to me so appreciate the link!
Greetings! Faith Dupree from the Columbia Urban League. Can we please talk about how certificates aren't apart of degree programs and how that leads to disqualifying factors for liveable incomes?
Hey Brittany - I noticed you raised your hand. Is there something we can help with?
And that is a big problem-no funding for non-credit courses
Spot on Yves! Also Industry can play a role in financing the skills development of their workforce
Would love your perspectives on the role of employers in potentially funding or part funding lifelong learning in addition to government
I have also seen data that shows that the need for a degree is falling amongst leaders in the digital skills space…many of them accept that the “proof is in the pudding” - demonstration of skills versus time spent in college (whereby skills actually stagnate before students even graduate)
+1 Megan - I think employers should be the primary funders of workforce development ups killing/reskilling
Do you think it’s fair to say oftentimes workforce partners themselves lack the skills/competencies needed to engage effectively as partners in co-design
The elephant in the room with tuition reimbursement is that colleges need to adopt policies that allow students to defer most of their payment until they get reimbursed.
+1 Rachel - I have seen evidence of that. Your observations resonates with me
Tuition advancement vs. reimbursement will provide for more equitable access
I see more things like JP Morgan’s wholesale software engineering enterprise reskilling initiative and hiring nontraditional candidates into their entry-level tech pipelines
Pre-paid tuition WILL be sustained for relevant career focused programs, because the ROI is positive.
Our local Community College has instituted Same Day Pay, which causes students to be dropped if they don't pay in full prior to the start of class, rendering tuition reimbursement moot, unless the utilize credit cards to close the gap
You are spot on with stackable credentials
Have a policy just for students financing from employer reimbursement. From our website: Students whose fees are being paid by an agency/employer at the end of a term based on course completion or proof of grade(s) can apply for Employer Reimbursement Tuition Deferment. Students are required to submit an application (prior to the published last day to pay fees for the given term), a letter on the employer’s letterhead outlining the tuition reimbursement policy and confirmation that the employee is eligible to participate in the program, a deferment fee of and their first payment of 25% of their fees. Final payment of tuition is due no later than four weeks after the end of the term. If you have any questions, please contact the Cashier’s office.
The problem I've found with EMSI and the BLS is that most databases are based on historical data, not current skills sought after in the market. Tech skills change yearly.
+1 Cindy - agree completely about the rear view mirror issue related to data. Really reinforces the point for me about the value of working directly with employer partners as they figure out what their skills needs are for the next few years.
EMSI / BGT has real-time functionality; then again, as of today the data is biased towards immediate / frontline jobs, but overall data sets like that are probably the best we currently have to establish trending skills (Coursera triangulates data like this with our 70M global learner data and both reveal similar patterns)
Let’s look out through the windshield instead of the rear view mirror ;-)
You gotta look both places to drive safe ;)
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EMSI and other databases are using AI on a continuous basis to identify skills in the job postings. We have found the data to be really timely!
Not in tech, they only look forward. Legacy does survive though.
Eric, they were: time, money, relevance, and confidence
Are far away are we from piloting ILRs?
Eric, they were: time, money, relevance, and confidence
Regarding transfer credit, WICHE’s Interstate Passport for a an entire package of general ed courses seems to be working very well.
I agree! Competency based education is critical.
Tonjua makes a great point about letting rules, policies, and processes get in the way of student success.
Before we begin wrapping up - we would love to hear your feedback in our post event survey. Please take a moment after this to provide your responses to this quick 5 question survey. We greatly appreciate your time today! Survey link: https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/5799710/Public-Viewpoint-feedback-survey
I’m in Ontario Canada and our province is moving to 60% of funding for post secondary education being tied to employment outcomes
Nobody wants to dip into their savings.
Thanks, Greg! Great to see you here.
Given my perspective shared by learners, I think it can seem like the landscape is changing so quickly, and the “cost of failure” so high, that it’s easy to get discouraged before even getting off the ground for those contemplating postsecondary credentials. Decision fatigue is real...
Rachel, I may be able to help in tying the employment outcomes to education. Students simply don't digital jobs (and STEM ones) these days.
Hey Greg - It's Carrie Samson (formerly of US Chamber & Credential Engine) :)
Sorry, typing too fast! Students don't know the digital jobs available at employers.
Outstanding panel of brilliant women, thank you so much for your time.
Interstate Passport is trying to do just that. Look into it.
Great Session, Jenna. Leslye Arsht
Thank you very much! great presentation and panel of discussions!
Thank you all so much!
Wonderful session - thank you!
Really great job, panelists. Yves, some amazing points! If anyone would like to hear about Ducere’s growth here in the USA with 100% online, work-relevant, British business degrees, I would love to share some ideas and hear your thoughts. ((FYI, No exams, all work-relevant programs, is driving big demand.))
Great session … thank you for all you are doing to help adults in America.
Thank you very interesting
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